Backhoe Bucket Teeth? - General Chat - Red Power Magazine

I had recently bought a Massey Ferguson Backhoe, which come with a 16" and 24" bucket. Neither bucket have the teeth on them, and I have not been able to find any information in regard to what teeth to get or how they attach on the one bucket.

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Most buckets appear to have a through hole, where once the tooth is in place, a cross pin is driven in to hold it on. My 24" bucket has this type of attachment, but the smaller bucket is different. I have called, searched, and asked to no avail. I was hoping that someone on here may be able to tell me what I have.

Since these hoes were made in England, I am learning it is rather difficult to get parts or info unless you live in England or Australia.

The piece that is welded to the bucket that the teeth attach to, does not have a trough hole, instead they have a "D" shaped dimple cast in, and I have no idea how they work.

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Any help is greatly appreciated.

I have been exactly where you are, it is not a fun job, but it is straightforward, in one case we torched/ground the old teeth off and put new shanks on the existing cutting edge, in the other we cut out the old edge and welded new shanks onto it. I prefer the later. You can also find weld on edges with shanks already installed. 
you might try a company like AIM attachments, they could potentially sell you an edge ready to weld, we have bought attachments from them before and been very pleased with product and service. 
i get shanks and teeth directly from my Case CE dealer.

7 hours ago, Gearclash said:

If you replace the tooth mounts, angle each outside mount out so that the outside tip of the tooth will be even with or slightly past the side of the bucket.  

This is probably the most important point of all. If the ditch isn’t wider than the bucket it won’t dig worth a damn no matter what kind of teeth are on it. Lay a steel yard stick on the side cutter and and swing the shank until the corner of the new tooth is even with the edge of the ruler, about an inch of overhang. 
  I have seen various mfr’s use an extra long cutting edge to cut the relief for the bucket… it works ok… until the new corner of the overhang becomes blunt… then it’s worse than worthless. You will never, ever cut a vertical basement wall with that mess. 
 Another advantage to splaying the corner teeth is, when the corners are worn off, simply swap sides and the relief is restored.

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After struggling with a tooth bar - I decided last year that instead of going the toothbar route , what I was going to do was just have two buckets for the FEL on my Kubota B. I got the 60" bucket and I'll use that for hauling material and clearing snow - etc. Then I bought a 54" bucket - and I'm going to use that exclusively for digging. The plan is to weld teeth onto the bucket itself and make the 54" bucket and just swap the entire bucket when I want to go from straight edge to toothed edge. I have the quick attach on the FEL - and it's relatively painless to swap implements - far less painless to swap the entire bucket than it is to take a toothbar off and on.

I also finally found what I think will be the best weld on teeth to use to do this: Hensley 156 line. (they make one for a 5/8" cutting edge - which is what the Kubota bucket appears to have).

My final question I need to answer is : how many teeth? And what kind of spacing?

Are more teeth better than less? For a 54" bucket typically I believe the toothbars come thru with five or six teeth. They also don't put the teeth right at the outside edges.

Should the outermost teeth go right at the outside edges? Should I maybe go with 6 teeth? The teeth on a backhoe bucket are spaced much closer together than what is typically seen on a FEL bucket - I'm wondering what the advantages / disadvantages are to having more or less teeth on the bucket. I've got a 60 tooth bucked for my Bobcat 743, it's got 8 teeth, including on the outside corners.

After buying my 60" grapple, I added teeth to that so it could be used as a "rake" to gather small debris. As you can see, I went with 8 teeth on that also.

Now you need to make sure you get the correct shanks for your application, backhoe bucket teeth shanks mount on the outside, or back of the bucket. Loader teeth shanks mount on the inside of the bucket and the flat side of the tooth is on the ground (also opposite of a backhoe bucket).

I opted to use backhoe style shanks and put the teeth upsidedown, when picking up logs, I don't have to force the log over the teeth shanks. The downside, if I were grading, the teeth leave marks and you can't clean up a hard surface as the cutting edge never touches. For my use, its worked out well. I wouldn't do it this way for a bucket.

Added: The under side mounting allowed me to do all welding on the bolt on cutting edge, flipping them over some of the welds would have been on the bucket wasting the advantage of the bolt on edge.

Ed

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I've got a 60 tooth bucked for my Bobcat 743, it's got 8 teeth, including on the outside corners.

After buying my 60" grapple, I added teeth to that so it could be used as a "rake" to gather small debris. As you can see, I went with 8 teeth on that also.

Now you need to make sure you get the correct shanks for your application, backhoe bucket teeth shanks mount on the outside, or back of the bucket. Loader teeth shanks mount on the inside of the bucket and the flat side of the tooth is on the ground (also opposite of a backhoe bucket).

I opted to use backhoe style shanks and put the teeth upsidedown, when picking up logs, I don't have to force the log over the teeth shanks. The downside, if I were grading, the teeth leave marks and you can't clean up a hard surface as the cutting edge never touches. For my use, its worked out well. I wouldn't do it this way for a bucket.

Added: The under side mounting allowed me to do all welding on the bolt on cutting edge, flipping them over some of the welds would have been on the bucket wasting the advantage of the bolt on edge.

Ed

I did some searching around to try and find something I thought would work properly - I even picked up a Kubota backhoe bucket tooth (bolt on) - and weld-on adapter for a toothbar to see if I thought that might work. Finally found the Hensley stuff - and ordered just one of the weld-on tooth adapters last night just so I can see if it looks like it's going to work. What I should be getting is something like this:

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It looks to me like it will put it in the proper orientation for a FEL bucket.

There's an assortment of tooth types available for the Hensley stuff - which looked like something that might come in handy.

Do you think that having more teeth makes the bucket dig better? Judging by the pictures you posted it looks like your tooth spacing is roughly similar to what I've seen for tooth spacing on backhoe buckets - rather than the typical toothbar - where the teeth are usually farther apart.